By Julia Plevin '09
While so far I have had no luck in getting a job, I have found some great jobs. I give Dartmouth College credit for helping fine-tune my internet search skills these past four years. Here are some possible ways to search for jobs online.
Note: none of these searches have been successful yet.
1. Internet Jobs – Let’s face it, we don’t know how to find anything anymore if it is not on the Internet. One thing I do when I am looking at a cool website is scroll to the bottom of the page and look for the link to “Jobs” or “Contact Us.” I have done this for websites like Facebook, Twitter, Yelp, and Dailycandy. This is especially useful if you know anything about computer science. Normally these sites are looking for people with experience, buts sometimes I stumble across an entry-level job.
2. Cool companies – When I hear about companies that sound interesting, I do what any person under sixty would do and Google the company to find out more about it. For example, when I told a friend I was interested in trends, she told me to look at Iconoculture. Upon looking at the website, I decided I was born to work at this company so I clicked on “Careers” and found my dream job. I wrote a cover letter and submitted my resume into a black hole. The first time I did this, I actually thought someone would get back to me. Now I have such little faith. If anyone has ever been successful getting a job this way, please let me know.
3. “Job” Sites – Everyone knows about idealist.com and hopefully everyone knows how to log into Dartboard and see the jobs that Career Services collects for us. I have found a few other sites that seem promising:
- Best for entry-level jobs of all sorts: One Day One Job
- Best for your younger sibling: My First Paycheck
- Best for general career advice: Career Realism
- Best for the politically-inclined: Hill Zoo
- Best for finding social change start-ups that might need assistance: Echoing Green
4. Dartmouth alum, Dartmouth alum, Dartmouth alum – I have finally begun to realize that the internet is a scary, lonely place and have started to search for Dartmouth alums to help me with the job search. You can find alums by talking to classmates, searching the career advisory database (Dartmouth Career Network), or looking at specialty groups such as The Dartmouth Entrepreneur Network or Dartmouth Alumni in Entertainment and Media .
Let’s just say that if there is a job to be found on the Internet, I will find it. However, as I continue my job search, I am learning that the Internet is useful for finding information, but nothing beats actually knowing people with connections to the job that you are interested in.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Monday, April 27, 2009
The New York Times Is Calling
“Skip, call on line 1, it’s The New York Times. They are doing a story about college seniors.” Predictably, given the time of year, other calls were received in rapid succession from The Economist, Forbes.com, Smart Money.com, and Time, each reporter wanting the inside scoop on where college grads are looking for work (assuming, of course, that my aerie in The Bank of America building in downtown Hanover, provides a bird’s eye view of the entire national employment scene:).
“I hear they are all heading to Washington to work for the federal government,” suggested one reporter. Au contraire, “I hear that they are all taking not-for-profit jobs this year. Isn’t that right?” queried another reporter.
Reporters, you’ve got to love them. At times they act like elementary school soccer players, all bunching together in a frenzied effort to chase the ball and score a goal for their team. Invariably, they keep their well trained eyes on the ball and resist efforts-such as mine- to divert their attention elsewhere.
As fast as I could throw sallies in from the sideline, the reporters kicked them aside. "I can’t say it is a trend but I’m seeing a lot of interest on campus in microfinance this year.” Pass. Or, “it may just be my imagination but students seem to be flocking to programs about international development and humanitarian health careers.” Drifting too far left. Feign interest, work your way back towards the center of the field. “I think climate change jobs are generating a lot of interest as well.” That’s nice, show me the money.
Inevitably, in the end, reporters get what they want and mostly- to their credit- they get it right. Take SmartMoney, for example. By keeping her eye on the prize, the reporter identified: “7 Places Where College Grads Can Find Work” (http://www.smartmoney.com/Personal-Finance/Employment/7-Places-Where-College-Grads-Can-Find-Work/).
And, true to form, The New York Times (“Business Grads Looking Beyond Wall Street”(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/business/economy/18grads.html?_r=1&pagewanted), dug beneath the headlines to find that- for some seniors- “the Wall Street crisis was a blessing in disguise” . Come again? The article even quoted yours truly, semi-accurately, as saying, that the crisis is offering students permission to "start looking at a wider array of brass rings".
To be perfectly honest, neither reporters nor career directors can state definitively where the jobs are this year. As always, they are here, there and everywhere. To be sure, they aren't clustered together like elementary school soccer players but spread out over a much bigger playing field. What we also know is- regardless of where the jobs are or aren't- you can't go wrong if you heed the wisdom of Poet Richard Lovelace's words: "Attempt the end and never stand to doubt. Nothing's so hard but search will find it out."
“I hear they are all heading to Washington to work for the federal government,” suggested one reporter. Au contraire, “I hear that they are all taking not-for-profit jobs this year. Isn’t that right?” queried another reporter.
Reporters, you’ve got to love them. At times they act like elementary school soccer players, all bunching together in a frenzied effort to chase the ball and score a goal for their team. Invariably, they keep their well trained eyes on the ball and resist efforts-such as mine- to divert their attention elsewhere.
As fast as I could throw sallies in from the sideline, the reporters kicked them aside. "I can’t say it is a trend but I’m seeing a lot of interest on campus in microfinance this year.” Pass. Or, “it may just be my imagination but students seem to be flocking to programs about international development and humanitarian health careers.” Drifting too far left. Feign interest, work your way back towards the center of the field. “I think climate change jobs are generating a lot of interest as well.” That’s nice, show me the money.
Inevitably, in the end, reporters get what they want and mostly- to their credit- they get it right. Take SmartMoney, for example. By keeping her eye on the prize, the reporter identified: “7 Places Where College Grads Can Find Work” (http://www.smartmoney.com/Personal-Finance/Employment/7-Places-Where-College-Grads-Can-Find-Work/).
And, true to form, The New York Times (“Business Grads Looking Beyond Wall Street”(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/business/economy/18grads.html?_r=1&pagewanted), dug beneath the headlines to find that- for some seniors- “the Wall Street crisis was a blessing in disguise” . Come again? The article even quoted yours truly, semi-accurately, as saying, that the crisis is offering students permission to "start looking at a wider array of brass rings".
To be perfectly honest, neither reporters nor career directors can state definitively where the jobs are this year. As always, they are here, there and everywhere. To be sure, they aren't clustered together like elementary school soccer players but spread out over a much bigger playing field. What we also know is- regardless of where the jobs are or aren't- you can't go wrong if you heed the wisdom of Poet Richard Lovelace's words: "Attempt the end and never stand to doubt. Nothing's so hard but search will find it out."
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Conversations With My Dad
By Julia Plevin '09
Like most Dartmouth students, I am internally driven, perhaps to the point of neurotic. My parents never told me to do my homework in high school. Instead, they told me to relax. Now that I am graduating from college, I keep looking to my parents for some guidance and help in the job search. I keep expecting them to put pressure on me and tell me I am wasting my Ivy League education. Instead, they are being completely laissez-fare. My lawyer father tells me that I should not try to go to law school right away. I am shocked at how much my parents believe in me. For every worrisome email that I send to my father, I receive wise words in response. While I never let my dad know how much I appreciate his perspective and encouragement, I thought I would share it on this blog:
4/10/09: I wrote the list of Ten Things I Could See Myself Doing Next Year, but the truth is all of those things seemed impossible because I had already been rejected for so many different jobs, from Teach For America, to Facebook, to Princeton In Asia.
Me: Right now it is hard to imagine myself doing anything because I’m so defeated and all my lofty dreams are being shattered
My dad: Lofty dreams are not applicable to your first job out of college. It's what you work toward once you get into the work world. Some people get there quickly, some more slowly. Some, I admit, never get there at all. Sometimes a person's lofty dream changes as they get older, more experienced, and have changed priorities. BUT NO ONE ACHIEVES HER LOFTY DREAMS RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE (unless you get drafted in the first round of the NBA or NFL drafts). This is a process, and you're just starting out. Careers go on for a long time. I'm in my 28th year, for example. I'm still working toward goals, too.
4/17/09: Today a Dartmouth alum who works for NBC told me about the NBC Broadcast Journalism program at the New York Film Academy. This sounded interesting to me so I forwarded the link to the website to my parents. My dad’s response was as practical as ever:
My dad: Do you have any idea if the graduates of this program have any success finding journalism jobs? It seems like a lot of what they teach is what you would learn if you got a job -- where you get paid, instead of paying -- working at a TV station. There are lots of TV stations in the country.
Me (feeling defeated and being typically melodramatic): Yeah, that is probably true. I think I just need to move somewhere, start waitressing, and then try to get a job. Or maybe I’ll just stay in Peru for a while after our ten-day family vacation.
My dad: If you stay in Peru, you can join the Shining Path guerillas. I hear they're hiring. Also, you can begin practicing your waitressing skills when you get home from Peru, at Mama's Ristorante, 10408 Bridle Lane, the house you have lived in since you were five years old.
4/20/09: I sent my parents the link to the New York Times article that quoted our very own Skip Sturman: "Business Grads Looking Beyond Wall Street". This was my dad’s response:
My dad: I liked this part:
Some students have grown frustrated and suspended their job search. As a result, Patricia Rose, the University of Pennsylvania's director of career services, recently sent out a message saying:
"We are hearing from some students that they are discouraged, and have stopped applying for jobs because so many other candidates are competing with them, some undoubtedly more qualified. Resist this impulse! By not applying, you are rejecting yourself."
She reminded them, "You are attending one of the world's finest universities."
"So hang in there," she concluded. "And, most importantly, believe in yourself."
I know you're working hard, but we believe in you. You will find your pot of gold.
Like most Dartmouth students, I am internally driven, perhaps to the point of neurotic. My parents never told me to do my homework in high school. Instead, they told me to relax. Now that I am graduating from college, I keep looking to my parents for some guidance and help in the job search. I keep expecting them to put pressure on me and tell me I am wasting my Ivy League education. Instead, they are being completely laissez-fare. My lawyer father tells me that I should not try to go to law school right away. I am shocked at how much my parents believe in me. For every worrisome email that I send to my father, I receive wise words in response. While I never let my dad know how much I appreciate his perspective and encouragement, I thought I would share it on this blog:
4/10/09: I wrote the list of Ten Things I Could See Myself Doing Next Year, but the truth is all of those things seemed impossible because I had already been rejected for so many different jobs, from Teach For America, to Facebook, to Princeton In Asia.
Me: Right now it is hard to imagine myself doing anything because I’m so defeated and all my lofty dreams are being shattered
My dad: Lofty dreams are not applicable to your first job out of college. It's what you work toward once you get into the work world. Some people get there quickly, some more slowly. Some, I admit, never get there at all. Sometimes a person's lofty dream changes as they get older, more experienced, and have changed priorities. BUT NO ONE ACHIEVES HER LOFTY DREAMS RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE (unless you get drafted in the first round of the NBA or NFL drafts). This is a process, and you're just starting out. Careers go on for a long time. I'm in my 28th year, for example. I'm still working toward goals, too.
4/17/09: Today a Dartmouth alum who works for NBC told me about the NBC Broadcast Journalism program at the New York Film Academy. This sounded interesting to me so I forwarded the link to the website to my parents. My dad’s response was as practical as ever:
My dad: Do you have any idea if the graduates of this program have any success finding journalism jobs? It seems like a lot of what they teach is what you would learn if you got a job -- where you get paid, instead of paying -- working at a TV station. There are lots of TV stations in the country.
Me (feeling defeated and being typically melodramatic): Yeah, that is probably true. I think I just need to move somewhere, start waitressing, and then try to get a job. Or maybe I’ll just stay in Peru for a while after our ten-day family vacation.
My dad: If you stay in Peru, you can join the Shining Path guerillas. I hear they're hiring. Also, you can begin practicing your waitressing skills when you get home from Peru, at Mama's Ristorante, 10408 Bridle Lane, the house you have lived in since you were five years old.
4/20/09: I sent my parents the link to the New York Times article that quoted our very own Skip Sturman: "Business Grads Looking Beyond Wall Street". This was my dad’s response:
My dad: I liked this part:
Some students have grown frustrated and suspended their job search. As a result, Patricia Rose, the University of Pennsylvania's director of career services, recently sent out a message saying:
"We are hearing from some students that they are discouraged, and have stopped applying for jobs because so many other candidates are competing with them, some undoubtedly more qualified. Resist this impulse! By not applying, you are rejecting yourself."
She reminded them, "You are attending one of the world's finest universities."
"So hang in there," she concluded. "And, most importantly, believe in yourself."
I know you're working hard, but we believe in you. You will find your pot of gold.
Thursday, April 16, 2009
Ten Things I Could See Myself Doing Next Year
By Julia Plevin '09
Yes, I am still jobless, but at least for now I have decided to stop wallowing in my self-pity and take some action steps. The first step to focus my job search was to make a list of ten things I could see myself doing next year:
1. Research for a documentary for film/television - example Production Assistant for 60 Minutes. I am way more interested in in-depth research shows than daily news or sitcoms.
2. Writing for a T.V. show like The Daily Show. Okay, this is basically a daily sitcom but the show is a perfect match for my witty sarcasm.
3. Writing in a foreign country - whether for a foreign newspaper or for an American newspaper or blog. I would also love to write for a travel guide but Harvard seems to have the monopoly on that…. I might want to someday apply for a Fulbright in journalism. My friend just got one and made it seem like anyone can get one. But I hate applications and I hear the process is quite a pain.
4. Something with social entrepreneurship - in the
5. Being paid to spot trends all over the world. I want to be a coolhunter, but this is an exclusive niche and I am pretty sure coolhunters do not come to Ivy League college career fairs.
6. Working at a startup - Internet, production, or something else. I like the startup vibe, especially in
7. Getting a grant/fellowship to research alternative health practices in cultures around the world. Applying for grants/fellowships. This is something I wish I had taken more advantage of during my years as an undergraduate.
8. Working at a talent agency – My dad says that I would not like the plasticity of people in
9. Starting a business with some of my best friends from college. We have lots of ideas but no one idea that we are set on pursuing right now. According to many entrepreneurs, it is best to start a company when you are
young, energetic, and have fewer responsibilities in this world. Times of change are promising for entrepreneurs.
10. Becoming a certified yoga teacher and waiting tables while trying to figure out how to get a job. Okay, so this is sort of a a cop-out but becoming a yoga teacher is like a rite of passage in my family.
Monday, April 13, 2009
Networking, Just Do It!
NETWORKING, JUST DO IT!
Your career coaches talk about it incessantly. Your parents and well-meaning relatives harp on it, endlessly. Even speakers who come on campus dwell on it, relentlessly. Which irritating subject are we discussing? NETWORKING, naturally.
Since there is absolutely no escaping the subject, JUST DO IT!
Let’s start just by talking about how to have a conversation with a purpose. Imagine the following scenario. You see a poster advertising a career panel on the arts and you decide, on a whim, to attend. You are particularly excited to learn that one of the panelists represents the field of arts administration because you could easily imagine yourself pursuing a management career in the arts.
At the panel, the speaker- who happens to be an alum- emphasizes the importance of being proactive in your job search, even if it means moving outside of your comfort zone. She tells everyone in attendance that, as an alum, she is more than willing to be a resource person for anyone who is serious about arts administration. Most of the other students stream for the exit when the panel is finished but you find yourself drifting towards the front of the room, inspired by her passion. After a brief conversation, she offers you a business card and tells you to be sure to contact her. So what happens next? JUST DO IT!
Your career coaches talk about it incessantly. Your parents and well-meaning relatives harp on it, endlessly. Even speakers who come on campus dwell on it, relentlessly. Which irritating subject are we discussing now? FOLLOW UP, naturally.
Before you follow up on the alum’s kind offer, you decide to do some research. You read about arts administration in a book about Careers in the Arts. You send the alum a list of questions which you would love to have answered about breaking into the field. You phone to set up a mutually convenient time to talk, ideally in person. You meet and get your questions answered including how best to look for jobs in arts administration. You ask permission to use the alum’s name in contacting others in arts administration whom she recommends. Better yet, you ask the alum if she might be willing to send a short note of introduction before you contact her friend or associate. Afterwards you send a thank you note, possibly hand written, expressing your appreciation and highlighting what you learned from the exchange. You promise to keep the alum well informed as your search progresses and emphasize how much you would appreciate having her continue to bring opportunities to your attention(http://www.dartmouth.edu/~csrc/jobs.html)
Congratulations, dare I say it, you are now a NETWORKER! And here is a little known secret. You just did the alum a huge favor! You provided an opportunity for her to feel like she was giving back to her alma mater without writing a check. You made her feel like her career choice was a good one and that she must be special if someone is seeking her out for advice. And
you gave her the great satisfaction of helping someone else climb the career ladder, as someone previously did for her.
Isn’t it time to join the legions of others out there having conversations with a purpose? Isn’t it time to reward all of those folks who signed up for alumni career advisory networks or became active in professional associations for the express purpose of helping others like yourself?
Now don’t you feel good?
Your career coaches talk about it incessantly. Your parents and well-meaning relatives harp on it, endlessly. Even speakers who come on campus dwell on it, relentlessly. Which irritating subject are we discussing? NETWORKING, naturally.
Since there is absolutely no escaping the subject, JUST DO IT!
Let’s start just by talking about how to have a conversation with a purpose. Imagine the following scenario. You see a poster advertising a career panel on the arts and you decide, on a whim, to attend. You are particularly excited to learn that one of the panelists represents the field of arts administration because you could easily imagine yourself pursuing a management career in the arts.
At the panel, the speaker- who happens to be an alum- emphasizes the importance of being proactive in your job search, even if it means moving outside of your comfort zone. She tells everyone in attendance that, as an alum, she is more than willing to be a resource person for anyone who is serious about arts administration. Most of the other students stream for the exit when the panel is finished but you find yourself drifting towards the front of the room, inspired by her passion. After a brief conversation, she offers you a business card and tells you to be sure to contact her. So what happens next? JUST DO IT!
Your career coaches talk about it incessantly. Your parents and well-meaning relatives harp on it, endlessly. Even speakers who come on campus dwell on it, relentlessly. Which irritating subject are we discussing now? FOLLOW UP, naturally.
Before you follow up on the alum’s kind offer, you decide to do some research. You read about arts administration in a book about Careers in the Arts. You send the alum a list of questions which you would love to have answered about breaking into the field. You phone to set up a mutually convenient time to talk, ideally in person. You meet and get your questions answered including how best to look for jobs in arts administration. You ask permission to use the alum’s name in contacting others in arts administration whom she recommends. Better yet, you ask the alum if she might be willing to send a short note of introduction before you contact her friend or associate. Afterwards you send a thank you note, possibly hand written, expressing your appreciation and highlighting what you learned from the exchange. You promise to keep the alum well informed as your search progresses and emphasize how much you would appreciate having her continue to bring opportunities to your attention(http://www.dartmouth.edu/~csrc/jobs.html)
Congratulations, dare I say it, you are now a NETWORKER! And here is a little known secret. You just did the alum a huge favor! You provided an opportunity for her to feel like she was giving back to her alma mater without writing a check. You made her feel like her career choice was a good one and that she must be special if someone is seeking her out for advice. And
you gave her the great satisfaction of helping someone else climb the career ladder, as someone previously did for her.
Isn’t it time to join the legions of others out there having conversations with a purpose? Isn’t it time to reward all of those folks who signed up for alumni career advisory networks or became active in professional associations for the express purpose of helping others like yourself?
Now don’t you feel good?
Friday, April 10, 2009
Musings on "The Question": What Are You Doing Next Year?
By Julia Plevin '09
I have come to find solace in the dreaded “do you know what you are doing next year” question. Some people without plans dread this question. Others invent plans just to give the person who asked some peace of mind. I prefer to say, “I have no idea,” in a carefree manner that makes the inquisitor feel uncomfortable for me.
I still have no idea what I am going to be doing or where I will be, but instead of feeling like a lost soul among a graduating class of driven students, I feel that I am part of something bigger. During the fall corporate recruiting, there was secrecy and hostility and many people fought over a few interviews with companies that didn’t even end up hiring. Now there is a sense of camaraderie among graduating seniors as we all try to navigate the murky waters of employment opportunities alone together.
I have lowered my expectations for my first job dramatically since last summer. Now my two wishes are to not move back home with my parents (I love them, but still…) and not do meaningless/menially office work. I would be willing to try out anything else. I believe many of my classmates are in a similar situation.
Few of my peers know what they are doing next year and most of the ones that do know are teaching either in the
We, the class of 2009, are driven and ready for the real world, but wary of the current state of this so-called real world. The Class of ’09 will be entering one of the most difficult job markets in recent history. Our notions of what we “should” be doing have been turned upside down as Wall Street crashed and continues to spiral downward into oblivion. I really believe that my classmates and I are taking this unique economic opportunity to think outside of the traditional track and be more open-minded with plans for graduation. We are being forced to think creatively, take a broader perspective, and become more philosophical.
I think the whole idea of “knowing what you are doing” next year creates a false sense of security. Some people may have jobs today that won’t exist come the August start date. Other people may be doing something for a year that does not relate to any future goals and will have to begin this process anew in a matter of months. No one knows what the future holds or what sort of lemons will be thrown at them along the way. Even if students have “plans for next year” it is impossible to know “what you are doing” next year.
Moreover, I have come to realize that the first job I get out of college does not have to be a perfect fit. I understand that any job will help me realize what I like and what I do not like and I will continue to grow and discover new opportunities. There is no such thing as a straight career path. I know all this, but I am not immune to anxiety about my future. It is both exhilarating and terrifying to have no plans for the future as of now. For once in my life, it is almost exhilarating to not know what will come next. I could be traveling around Asia or working at a charter school or interning for a producer in
I believe most people will find something interesting to do next year. We are all part of a generation that is going to change the world. I am optimistic about the future, but after being asked “the question” one too many times in a frat basement, I had an anxiety attack. No matter how you spin it, inquiries about post-graduate plans are truly loaded, especially when those plans remain nonexistent after five months of searching and applying.
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